Posts by Nathan Natas

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The paranormal.

by Lost in the fog in

i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

Xanthippe, so, are you a "believer" or a "non"? Declare yourself, Sire!

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The paranormal.

by Lost in the fog in

i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

Nathan Natas

Gabcol said, "...I freaked out and immediately prayed to Jehovah out loud. ( Since even mentioning his name would scare the demons away). "

Perhaps my mind is failing me, but just for fun let me issue a "CITATION, Please!" challenge to you or anyone who wants to "defend your honor"...

WHERE, precisely, in the scriptures or ant WT publication are we assured that invoking the (unpronouncable) name of ghod will scare away demons?

Will you accept my "Game of Ghods" challenge?

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The paranormal.

by Lost in the fog in

i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

Nathan Natas

Lost_In_The_Fog asked, "But what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.(?)"

I am an atheist. I believe there is no "spirit realm" inhabited by any sort of being: No gods, no ghosts, no ghouls, no souls, no devils, demons, sprites or 7-Ups. Not even a Being Crosby.

So how do I explain "Strange phenomena"?

Well, first of all there is LYING. It seems many have never heard of this phenomena, but I assure you it is totally real. Here's how it works: a person says something happened that never did actually happen. There are people who make good livings by lying. One example of this is the clergy of any religion, followed by the "royal families" of any nation, followed by the people who sell and promote homeopathic "medicine." This list is not complete and could be much, much, much longer.

This is followed by misapprehension. It is funny, but while people will admit that there are SOME crazy people in the world, it never occurs to them that THEY might be one of the crazy people who ought not trust their limited and defective senses. They will tell you with absolute sincerity that "they know what they saw"or heard or tasted or felt. They are the 100% accurate perceivers of absolute quantum reality and everyone else is wrong.

Yes, I get the irony here - you want me to examine myself, don't you?

I have.

I have been entertained by optical illusions, I have experienced auditory hallucinations, and I have seen things that might - or might not - have been there. I have had well-intentioned people predict my future and I have paid to have my horoscope drawn up. I have also dismissed ALL of this as meaningless "entertainment."

Why is it that when the dead speak they sound like lunatics who can barely remember their own name, let alone their favorite color? Bring me the ghost of J. P. Morgan - or even Nick Darvas - and let him give me some actionable information, and I'll consider becoming a believer, but until the it is just J.Z. Knight hawking her idiot alter ego Ramtha-Lama-Ding-Dong!

But you know what? If YOU want to believe this crap and give your money to fake Xtian fakirs, magic soofis, healing monk-eys, or psychic detectives on a cacye from the flying spaghetti monster himself, knock yourself out! I couldn't care less - UNLESS your ghost tells you to cause harm to another person, in which case I will be at your door with a pitchfork in one hand and a torch in the other and a shotgun in the other. Fair enough?

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TV TRAILER: ‘Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath: The Jehovah’s Witnesses' Two Hour Special Event - A&E

by MaybeSo in

tv trailer: ‘leah remini: scientology and the aftermath: the jehovah’s witnesses' two hour special event - a&e, 9pm et/pt, tues, nov 13, 2018. https://youtu.be/yzdege5im90.

didn't see a post about it yet.

will you be tuning in?

Nathan Natas

Like Simon, I have two feelings... but I WILL be tuning in just to add my +1 to the viewer numbers.

...and I like Mike Rinder & Leah Remini, and ANY XJW who is brave enough to tell their story as a cautionary tale to the next herd of potential converts.

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There is something I don't understand about the selling off of Kingdom Halls

by Tameria2001 in

i have been reading where the watchtower is closing down kingdom halls.

there is something that i don't understand, or maybe i am just misunderstanding it.

can someone clear this up for me?

Nathan Natas

Steve, what would we do without you "clarifying" what has already been said?

You are the wizard of overlapping explanations!

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My JW friend

by former2free in

jw
friends

i have been on a journey to leave and my plans are starting to come to their fulfillment.

i got the job i want back to move away from where i’m at and i have just a couple of hurdles to get past.

one of those was telling my best friend whom i’ve known since i was 13. he is still very active and indoctrinated and we had a long conversation where i told him i’m leaving the organization.

Nathan Natas

Why not just pay me to come over and kick the squirt out of you?

It will hurt, sure, but in 3 or 4 months you will have forgotte... Oh, I GET IT!

YOU LIKE LONG TERM PAIN, don't you?

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Is my future mother in law Pimo?

by Addison0998 in

so my fiancé found out that his mom and sister, both baptized, went to a halloween party last night, dressed up and everything, with his step dad, who’s not a jw.

his mom hardly goes to the meetings or out in service, she’s quite inactive, his sister is a bit more active and serious about it.

i thought it was pretty bold even for someone who’s not a die hard witness.

Nathan Natas

Mexican TJs (Testigos de you-know-who) are allowed to play with piñatas... it's a short walk around the taco stand to get from piñatas to dia de los Muertos, ¿no?

So what is so damned bad about Halloween? Michael Jackson knew! NOTHING! Just good clean spooky sex with strangers!

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As The Watchtower Corporation Faces One Crisis After Another, What Will The Governing Body Members Do?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i foresee great a very tumultuous road ahead for our dearly beloved governing body, or god(guardians of doctrine).

they need a much more flexible approach to these problems, instead of being narrow mindedly ridged, which seems to be almost impossible for these hyper brain washed fools for corporate jehovah.. looks like am#3 will be the most inflexible since he and corporate jehovah seems to know what each other is thinking and feeling, iow am#3 really thinks he can read jehovah mind that why we affectionately call him tight pants tony, he's probably a closet gay that gets real excited by nice looking brothers in tight pants, and perhaps a camel toe or two has caught his gaze(must keep those things hidden).

i don't see him ever jumping ship he looks like he will ride the watchtower vessel to the bottom of the ocean.. will some future events lead to a big deflection in governing body loyalties?

Nathan Natas

The present Governing Body has only ONE concern - is there enough loot in the vaults to provide THEM with the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed before they go to meet King Jesus at the celestial altar?

They have no more concern for any FUTURE GeeBee-erss than they have for any other member of the rankin' foul (rank & file for you sticklers - and you know who you are).

The FACT is, they DO! They have more than enuff! So full speedahead, and damn the torpedos!

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